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06 February 2003 @ 09:07 am
I hate people.  
This chaos surrounding the NOT YET IMPLEMENTED post limits is making me tense and angry.

It reminds me of AGV ... when newbies discovered that there were flood limits on PMs, and especially when Cx decided that we should pay dues in order to help the community live. It was for everyone's benefit, but just about everyone balked, and people even attacked Cx for his decision.

People aren't listening to what's being said. People who pay LESS THAN two bucks and fifty cents per month are bitching about only being allowed twenty posts, although they may not even come close to posting that much in a day. XP People are demonizing the LJ site staff, which pisses me off to no end. People are attempting to be all-knowing about a subject that they have absolutely no information on, other than the fact that they oh-my-god just can't imagine a limit on their life. It's violating their FREEDOM AND WHAT THEY PAID FOR, you know!! People are bitching that LJ is attempting to force people to sign up for paid accounts with this. What the heck are you, you idiots, newly manufactured conspiracy theorists?

LJ is an online community. Online communities MUST CHANGE in order to survive.

You can be SURE that the LJ site staff researched their options thoroughly. Creators who CARE about their communities, as the members of this staff DO, do NOT commit such acts arbitrarily. FURTHERMORE, these limits are NOT set in stone. They WILL change as is needed.

So. People, CALM DOWN! Your life is NOT going to end. We do NOT need to hear your angry opinion! In twenty-two pages, it is most likely that somebody's already said the same damn flamebait thing! AUGH! ::kills self:: I only made it two pages into the entire thread before I went crazy. People are just that damn annoying when they don't want to change.

God, I'm glad Cx isn't here. If this didn't kill him, he'd be laughing his ass off at us. I'm sad that Brad Fitz is here, because I know this hurts him. I've watched it happen before with Cx, and with other community creators. Those he made the home for wound him, and he loses the will to maintain a place of peace.

Maybe I just have a different perspective on these things because I watched a close friend slowly lose the will to create, and knew for months that the end was approaching. If they were to shut down LJ today, I would be sad ... but I would understand. Even though I paid $100, I would not go out headhunting in court or over email.

So if you're one of those folks in a tizzy who is going to leave LJ for Blurty/Blogger/Whomever because of this, I say GOOD RIDDANCE. Your squabbling nature weakens the ship upon which you stand.
Current Mood: aggravatedaggravated
Current Music: "Deep Silent Complete," Nightwish
Tenshilocke_no_miko on February 6th, 2003 07:23 am (UTC)
LJ is doing us a HUGE favor with their service. It's incredible that it's taken them THIS long to implement changes. I can't believe people would actually complain. At least we have NO ads, and no spam mail from LJ.
Sarah  ~静かな猫~: WTF?silentkitty on February 6th, 2003 07:27 am (UTC)
*applause* You've summed up my feelings on the issue exactly, thank you. :p
ex_jean on February 6th, 2003 07:51 am (UTC)
Feh. People are idiots. I'm not even worried about the whole thing... I make very few posts as it is. I do pay for the service but -- and this is an unbelievable rarity in my life -- I get what I pay for. I bow to the will of the LJ staff because they know better than I do how this works. They're not doing this to be mean; they're doing it to help keep the site up. Why can't people recognize that? Oh, wait... because they're IDIOTS! :jladljksdjk:
claireinbredslytherin on February 6th, 2003 11:16 am (UTC)
the only thing I'm worried about is if community posts are going to count.. oO;; I have this nightmarish vision of people exploding in the cosplay one and not having enough posts in my quota to get everyone to shut up.. o_o;
fcotte davydde hammehacque, esq.: thumbs upczircon on February 6th, 2003 11:20 am (UTC)
Well said.
Kain aka That Evil Guynanikore on February 6th, 2003 12:11 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't even expend so much energy on the darn thing

frankly I don't see what the big deal is
Silvermasksilvermask on February 6th, 2003 12:29 pm (UTC)

I wasn't as close to CX as you were, but I could see it too... T_T;
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One Who Wanders: annoyedabiona on February 6th, 2003 03:56 pm (UTC)
(Erm ... I just had a bad figure drawing class, so don't mind me ...)

So many restrictions? The words imply some sort of tyranny on the part of LJ staff, when in fact LJ has placed very few restrictions on those who use it, even free users (I wonder how everyone would feel if, instead of three usericons, users just got one, like at uJournal). If they want to change so badly, there is nothing stopping them. I will be glad to see them go, because 1.) they'll be happier, and 2.) I won't have to listen to their repetitive rants on the subject anymore. LJ will continue to function without their potentially destructive, discontent-spreading presence.

Livejournal, for most purposes, will still be the best tool around. Is it the perfect tool ...? No. But it's done a damn good job thus far, and I think that after so many years in the business, they know what needs to be done.

I believe that the staff has done admirably maintaining the site thus far. These changes that they make now will keep the community alive and functioning. That is why it is difficult for me to stand it when people refuse to see beyond their own immediate wants. (Let's face it - no one needs to post 5 to 20 times per day.)

We have warning now. It is not currently in effect, to my knowledge. When the new system is at a level that the staff feels adequate to serve their purposes, it will go back up.
claireinbredslytherin on February 6th, 2003 04:12 pm (UTC)
from how you talk about 20 entries and what not, I can tell you're not on a free account. ^___^;;

I agree, 20 entries is MORE than enough for ANY sane person. people posting more than 20 times a day (even with communities) are just rediculous. BUT - us free users are being told we may only get to post THREE times a day, including posts to communities. not twenty, THREE. so, I can see why people are a teensy bit upset - myself included. altho, I'm looking into getting a payed account anyway, so.. *shrug* but still.. three posts?! yeesh! oO;
One Who Wanders: calmabiona on February 6th, 2003 04:26 pm (UTC)
The number of posts for free users has been raised to five, last I heard.

I believe that the way I speak of 20 (which has now been raised to 50) posts as I do is a result of my own posting habits. I have been on free accounts extensively in the past and can identify with the anger over three posts, but over time I have grown to relish a longer, more complete post, rather than many small, fragmented ones. I tend to post near the end of the day, or collect thoughts over several days and post them together. Thus, there are very few days on my calendar where I exceed five posts, posts to communities included (though I will admit that I rarely post to communities these days).
claireinbredslytherin on February 6th, 2003 05:13 pm (UTC)
not everyone posts the same ~ some people need a good sparodic five or six posts in various places. half of my entries are locked and dealing with figuring out where people are oO; (ie, any time during a con, there's like ten posts dedicated to trying to find so-and-so's cel number because (s)he has so-and-so's costume part, ect...)

but, yeah... I guess we should just all shut up and get payed accounts. XD;
HEADCLEANER: Idantitype on February 6th, 2003 01:57 pm (UTC)
:o Hm, this is all news to me, but I agree with what you're saying.

So the limit is 20 posts per day? Including communities? I'd say that's plenty fair... especially considering I pretty much only have time to make ONE post per day lately, if that. ^^; Quite frankly, people posting more than 20 times on LJ in a day probably should find something else to do...
One Who Wanders: annoyedabiona on February 6th, 2003 04:06 pm (UTC)
Before disinformation spreads:

Please check out the news journal.

As a free user, you are allowed five posts per day. This includes posts to communities as well as your journal. As a paid user, you get 50. Comments are NOT limited.
claireinbredslytherin on February 6th, 2003 04:14 pm (UTC)
holy crap, it went up to 5 and 50?! (disregaurd my other comment, then...)

...who posts 50 times a day? O_O;; Jebus H Christ~
HEADCLEANER: Idantitype on February 7th, 2003 01:29 pm (UTC)
Ah, gotcha. 50 is way more than enough for me, I would say. Even the 20 would have been fine.

As far as I'm concerned, free users have no right to complain. It's FREE. LJ is doing them a service. You get the point. :P
SD: Smilesado_nishi on February 6th, 2003 08:10 pm (UTC)
I don't really care about the post limit either, since I don't post that much... And for the people who are bitching, they can always just edit their recent entry and add stuff to it. XD Or just combine everything into one big post... It's not that hard to do at all. (Hell, it's what I usually do.)

Very nice post, Sakaki... I agree with everything you said.
change_of_heart on February 7th, 2003 02:32 am (UTC)
!?! OMFG MY LIFF IS GOING 2 END!!! HEAL PLZ!! 5555555 kthxbye.

:D Amen. You've summed up my thoughts on it exactly.. and I don't see what's so hard about hitting the edit button rather then going to create another post. It's NOT that HARD. >>;
Kanashimi yo konnichi wahavetrue on March 14th, 2003 11:18 pm (UTC)

Holy moly, that was funny. You get the LOLofTheDayAward. That and a dollar will get you a coke almost anywhere.
Lukesemi_normal on February 7th, 2003 02:48 am (UTC)
I suppose to some people 5 posts won't seem like a lot. But I think given that that's the limit for a free account, arguing seems stupid. I might be biased because I only update two-three times a week and don't belong to any communities but for the low, low price of FREE coupled with the pretty decent support I'm more than happy to get away with five posts.

Christ, it's a journal. If it's that big a deal just invest in paper and a pen. If you don't want to regress to that, then quit complaining.